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In these Cello Circle chats, I talk with my friends publicly about specific topics

Observers can watch live or watch recordings of the conversations.

To join the conversation on Zoom, register at the link above.

Video links will be posted here a day or two after each talk is finished.


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Cello Circle: Allison Ash on racial diversity and equality in the private music studio
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Cello Circle: Allison Ash on racial diversity and equality in the private music studio

Cello Circle with Kara Eubanks (Topic: Child-led learning)
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Cello Circle with Kara Eubanks (Topic: Child-led learning)

Cello Circle w Garth Cummings (Topic: Irene Sharp's pedagogy)
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Cello Circle w Garth Cummings (Topic: Irene Sharp's pedagogy)

Cello Circle: Garth Cummings on the pedagogy of Irene Sharp, Part 2
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Cello Circle: Garth Cummings on the pedagogy of Irene Sharp, Part 2



Allison Ash (Nov 13, 2020)

Topic: DEI in the private music studio
Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion: it's so important. Yet, people like me are a little lost on some of the details involved with implementing change in the private lesson setting. Allison has been thinking about and writing books about race and racism for many years. With her unique background in music, I thoroughly enjoyed hearing her perspective on our not only our impact as studio music teachers, but best practices and common pitfalls. 
Copy of chat window with Allison
Link to pdf of Allison's book, Anti-Racism in Higher Education

Kara Eubanks (Sept 1, 2020)Topic: Student-led studio music teaching
Kara and I share a lot of the same passions for student-led learning, which is very different from playful teaching or game-based teaching. Kara and I talk about the ways in which our paths regarding student-led learning intersect.  Copy of the chat box from Zoom

Garth Cummings (Sept 17 & Oct 27, 2020)

Topic: Irene Sharp's pedagogy, Part One (left arm) & Part Two (right arm)
Garth and I talk about Irene Sharp's pedagogy, getting into the nitty gritty of how to execute some of the ideas she presents to her students. 
Garth generously provided outlines for our talks.

Part One document 
Part Two document 

(I found this TikTok of Lynn Harrell talking about picking up the left fingers off the string. Another version of "cling"!) 

Martha Giese Vallon (Aug 12, 2020)

Topic: Margaret Rowell, the grandmother of cello pedagogy

I talk with Martha about her experiences as a student of Margaret Rowell. We focused our informal talk on Margaret's lasting legacy in the field of early childhood cello education. To learn more about Margaret, watch videos of Margaret teaching (compiled by Avi Friedlander) or read the article Irene Sharp wrote. Margaret's obituary is here.

Avi Friedlander (Aug 28, 2020)

Topic: Irene Sharp's pedagogy

Avi and I talked about our experiences with Irene Sharp, whose approach to cello pedagogy comes from a completely different angle than most teachers. Her website has *extensive* information about her teaching ideas. (Recording of my conversation with Avi has timed out and is no longer available.)

Yuriy Leonovich (Nov 4, 2020)

Topic: Attributions in the Suzuki cello repertoire
Yuriy has done a lot of research on the composers of the Suzuki cello repertoire. Some of the attributions are known to be incorrect, and some he believes to be incorrect through his research. We unpack his findings. Here is Yuriy's latest installment on pedagogical cello material related to Suzuki.
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Susan Gagnon (Aug 26, 2020)
Topic: RCM testing and private lessons

I was interested in hearing from Susan about how she works with her students on the RCM testing in conjunction with her private studio. 
Recording of my conversation with Susan


Gabriela Márquez (Nov 18, 2020)

Topic: Language acquisition and music acquisition

Gabriela and I talk about language and the brain, as well as its implications for music education. We talk about the ways kids learn about music similarly to how they learn to speak. We also go into a great deal of neuroscience. Copy of chat window from the talk with Gabriela

Alicia Randisi-Hooker (Sept 25, 2020)

Topic: Somatic approach to learning cello
Alicia and I talked about how the whole body learns the cello. Alicia elaborates on the idea that when we teach a child, the expression, understanding, gesture, and artistry flows from the whole body. ​

Katy Plautz (Apr 20, 2021)

Topic: Anatomy for cellists

Occupational therapist and hand specialist, Katy Plautz, joins me and Megan Titensor to talk about anatomy, body usage, hazards, and injury-prevention. As a former cellist, Katy treats many musicians and has a specialized perspective on what a cellist's body needs. 

Outline and pictures from Katy


Navah Perlman Frost & Aviva Frost (April 29, 2022, 3pm Eastern)

Topic: Choice & Kids & Music Lessons

Navah and Aviva (mother & daughter) will join me for a talk about choice in music lessons. Both are musicians with a unique perspective on the idea of how much choice should be and can be given to kids during their music study. Navah has redirected her professional energy from concert pianist to baker, and Aviva is in the process of a cello performance degree. We will explore their stories through the lens of choice and classical music lessons. (I *just* found Navah's baking IG @frostedbynavah. Incredible!)

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Jordan Hamilton (May 27, 2022)

Topic: The Role of Classical Music

Jordan and I talked about the importance of classical music, particularly the importance it has on the development of a young cellist. We explored pedagogical ideas surrounding what I call, "crossover teaching," as well as thoughts regarding the impact of the well-developed pedagogy and curriculum in classical music education. Visit Jordan's website and his IG.

Er-Gene Khang (July 26, 2022)

Topic: DEI in Studio Teaching

Er-Gene and I talked about her ideas on DEI in her university studio. Er-Gene has been truly valuing her students as human beings over classical music as an institution for many years, and her language shows as much. I wished we had more time to talk about Florence Price and Er-Gene's path to becoming a scholar on Price's music. But alas, that will have to wait until another time.

Lecolion Washington (July 28, 2022)

Topic: Colonization in Music Teaching

Lecolion Washington is the Executive Director of the Community Music Center of Boston. He sat down with me to talk through my jumbled thoughts about colonization in music teaching. I'm extremely grateful for his time, and for his guidance. He helped me in more ways than I can even express in words. 


Cello Circle Guests - Biographies

(many bios are linked above)



Martha Giese Vallon is a graduate of the Rotterdam Conservatory (The Netherlands) and the University of Wisconsin-Madison. Having grown up in Madison, WI, she took a circuitous route to Europe via Berkeley, CA where she studied with Margaret Rowell and was awarded a Hertz Fellowship (UC-Berkeley) for study abroad. She has performed in hundreds of concerts and participated in many recordings with the leading European baroque and classical orchestras including The Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra, Les Arts Florissants, La Chapelle Royale, and the Orchestra des Champs Elysées. Martha has performed throughout Europe, Israel, and Japan in various chamber music and orchestral settings and has taught in several notable early music courses. She plays an anonymous baroque cello made in the 18th century and a newly made viola da gamba by Francis Beaulieu of Montréal. Martha has maintained cello studios in California, The Netherlands, France, and Wisconsin for over 40 years during which time the has honed her teaching skills, influenced greatly by her years with Margaret Rowell. She is also a certified Musicanopy™ teacher (a preschool music program) which she has taught at the Waisman Early Childhood Program at the University of Wisconsin as well as privately. She teaches cello and music theory in the summers at the University of Wisconsin-Madison Summer Music Clinics.

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